Half-Life²: Spoilers Abound!

[Darth Bob]

Ok I'm going to double post because I've done some thinking...Gordon definately was in some sort of long stasis in the "Train Dimension" as I call it, because of the fact that Eli carried Alyx out of Black Mesa and that obviously must have been when she was little. Maybe that also explains why the graphics get so much better...As for how long Gordon will be stuck until the next installment, I'm not sure.

[Jordan]

I read somewhere that G-Man was because they couldn't think of a name and the npc AI is called Gman in the console because I read somewhere that it was shorter than G-Man.About the G-Man, he is in a lot more places than you think in HL2. I've seen him like four times before highway 17. One is on the monitor in either Kleiner's lab or in Black Mesa East. Then I'm sure there are 2 instances where he's on one of the empty docks during the whole airboat phase. I honestly don't remember the other time but... Yeah...I haven't beaten HL yet, but on HL:S you can skip to the end, and well let's just say if you don't choose his offer to work for him, it really is a battle you have no chance of winning.The end of HL also refers to the beginning of HL2. When the G-Man is going RiSe AnD ShInE, the little white lines that zoom behind him are from the ending of HL when they're somehow on the Black Mesa train in.... Space I think...I'm in the same boat as Bob. I didn't skip to the end, though. *Glare at Bob*Not trying to stir anything up, but I was thinking, (I'm rather enjoying thinking over the story), is if the G-Man was a "government man" working for some alien group, why then, is Gordon's contract "open to the highest bidder".In the Citadel, Breen says something like that to Gordon, implying that it was Breen who bought out his contract. Why would the G-Man, who is trying to end/stop/destroy the Combine, sell his "contract" to the enemy?And because of at the end, the G-Man also says, "instead of giving you the illusion of freedom of choice, I'll choose for you". That sounds off for a "government" out to stop the Universal Union. To me, that is.There are a ton of ideas that go flying off from there. Maybe Prima disagrees with me, but that story just doesn't make any sense to me. After I finish Half-Life, and Opposing Force, things will make more sense.Play OpFor but DON'T and I imply DON'T impliment that into the Half-life storyline. OpFor really fucked up with that expansion, and you should know why due to the people that made the expansion itself.As far as the G-man goes, I believe he is working for a government that wants the Combine gone, and right now Gorden is the man to do that, so the G-man is manipulating Gorden. After Gorden defeats the combine, I believe that this so called "government" will have no more use of Gorden, or any other human being, and they will destroy everyone.... well... try to. From what I have read, played, and thought about, I am led to believe that in Half-life 3, the final enemy will be the G-man and his government. Maybe there will even lead to be a 4th, cause thats a lot of information within a single game, and knowing Seirra, they will most likely try to leave us more confused once again. All we do know right now is that Gorden is in a "stasis," and in Half-life 3 we can end up 10 minutes after that explosion, or 10 years. Personally, I'm very happy how they have planned out this story so far, it leaves a lot to think about and it'll be funny when half the things we thought were gonna happy did not, or maybe they do! Oh I cannot wait! Heck, even the Alyx expansion would be neat to play just to learn more backround of the story as is. I want to learn more about "The Advisor" as well. (Or how real combine look like, which their real names are "Synths") Picture here http://www.fragfiles.org/~hlstory/e...i ... festory/Go there for some more feedback on the whole HL storyline.And be sure to read about the Seven hours war, it is very important.I'm having a tough time believing that the G-Man is working for a "government". The G-Man, by what he says, the things he does, is to me, clearly in some kind of seat of power. His motives are unclear, but because of things that are said in the game, you can tell that he's not exactly playing for some "government" trying to get rid of the Combine.Breen, who himself is trying to end the human resistance, works for the Combine. At the end, he says something, (I can't remember the exact quote), but it implies that it was Breen who "bought" Gordon's contract.So, if the G-Man's aim is to get rid of the Combine, and he is using Gordon to do so, there's nothing supporting why the G-Man sells the contract to Breen.Then, at the end, the G-Man tells Gordon, "I've recieved many requests for you. To get rid of the illusion of choice, I'll decide for you."This is not a government, trying to get rid of the Combine. The G-Man is clearly in complete control. He is in charge, and calls the shots. And because he is basically selling out Gordon's services, it only makes sense that he is some kind of intergalactic mercernary kind of person. Or something.

[Darth Bob]

Jordy, although your comments are good, the decision of choice one is definately a reference to the end of HL and how you "choose" to work for him. Granted it isn't much of a choice, but yes there really are, I guess, two endings to HL.

[Outlaw]

This all is really to complicated. We all understand it all, or some of it anyways. But this whole story can go so many ways. God i love half life.

[Darth Bob]

GW your link to the pic of the advisor is broken, looks like you'll need Gorden's help finding the url.

[Jordan]

Jordy, although your comments are good, the decision of choice one is definately a reference to the end of HL and how you "choose" to work for him. Granted it isn't much of a choice, but yes there really are, I guess, two endings to HL.True, but the existence of Half-Life² means you took his offer.

[Darth Bob]

Well obviously because Valve would only make money off of CS. And because in the HL games, while he says nothing, Gordon almost always "responds" positively to other characters' words.

[GuessWho17]

K Bob, just realized the link is borked. http://members.shaw.ca/halflifestory/ev ... isor.jpgor http://members.shaw.ca/halflifestory/ev ... ombine.jpg as an ingame shot.Well, all I can say more is that you can choose to believe anything you want, and theres nothing I can say to make some people think otherwise. Go to that site I posted of, http://members.shaw.ca/halflifestory/ , and look at the timeline. Read it -all- and you may have a better understanding as to what this guy is saying. He is correct in almost everything he says, along with me backing it up since I thouroughly played Half-life 1 and 2 over and over. The facts are really there in the game, for the most part. The most mysterious thing is the G-man, and its really up to the person to decide on what they think he is. So Jordan, I won't say I'm right or that your wrong, but I will say that if you do look at this guys/my side of the viewpoint it will make more sense.To further explain Breen, he was the administrater at Black Mesa, and he was obviously a doctor. The combine most likely gave them the crystal because they knew this was going to happen - bring a portal for Xen lifeforms to invade earth. Doing that, the combine can overcome both lifeforms in one sweep - Earth. So, they most likely offered Breen a proposition of power that he took bait for, and he ordered the scientists to do this. In HL1, you hear the scientists put the machine up to 110%, when it was suppose to run at 70%. After the incident happen, I believe Breen somehow had a teleport out of there, to at this point he can further plan with the combine on how they will attempt their next step. After HL1, Gorden free's the Xen's by killing the combine-controlled Nihilanth, or the ruler of Xen. At this point, the combine decided that they would invade Earth in a very strategized way. Many people clustered to the cities because of the Xen wildlife teleporting all over Earth, and the humans felt more secure with protection in the cities. The Combine then invade Earth, and the 7 hours war begins. Breen gives up after 7 hours, trying to convince the humans of "City 17" that its the only choice other than death. He tries to manipulate the people into thinking that the combine are not here to kill the human species, and that they are our benefactors, and a whole bunch of bullshit. From there on, anyone whos played HL2 can catch on the story. So yes, Breen very well did know Gorden, Eli, and even Kliener. Breen is the Combines pawn right now. Read that timeline site for fully detailed and explained information.

[Bane]

I bet G-Man is like... A huge alien that eats horses as antipasta. With like... Ninjas, big dinosaur ninjas! G-Man is a Dinosaur!Am I the only one that remembers what Breen says when you are pissowning the citidel with the uber gravgun? "Who knows what implant they put into you" or something like that so, Gordon must be like... a hermaphrodite! No but it seems to me like somehow Gordon is one of many tools G-Man has. It might be that G-man actually isnt aloud to act on his own accord. Being able to freeze time definatly isnt the only thing he can is able to do, seeing how he generally stroles through half-life 2 and only confronting Gordon the second he finishes his mission. Fuck if I know.

[GuessWho17]

In one of the G-man spotings on Highway 17, you look across the water in some telescope and you see G-man talking to someone, who happens to be Odessa Cubbage. Maybe the G-man knew of the combine attack with the gunship, and was telling Odessa to give Gorden the rocket launcher. Don't you find it odd that out of everyone there, he gives a scientist the rocket launcher?! And what about that suitcase he carries around... I bet he has naked pics of snape...er... I mean a teleportation device in that bish!