DrepanonRO

DesuMacchi · Post by **DesuMacchi** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 4:19 pm

i played my 15 trial on iRO. I enjoyed it other than the lag as well.iRO's rates are 1/1/1 which is crap. It doesnt have to be a high rate server for me to play on but DAMN!! 1/1/1 up to 4/4/4 is SLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWW!!!! 5/5/5 is the rate of a server I play on alot. NovaRO is what it is called.It took me about 8 days to get to Assassin. Playing a few hours a day.The bad problem about the low rate servers is if you dont have 25 or more people on at a time and that can party up you arent gonna level at all. Thats the only thing I dislike about a low rate server with only a few people. I, like you, love the challenge of leveling but jesus Im not leveling solo for 2 weeks to get 50 job levels

Drep'anon · Post by **Drep'anon** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 4:37 pm

I hear ya... but there is always a place to level... i think many use the excuse that they cant level when it is really a matter of them not know where to level. If you are noob.. it may seem impossible at some levels... but after you build a character you should already posses the ability to cut the build time in half.There are other challenging ways to level quickly. Like destroying a test egg. I wanted to have some egg hunts and let people that find the eggs level up alot instantly... this way it is still challenging and the level STILL is worth a lot. I think what i am getting at is without a challenge the things you get are less valuable... if you remove the value of time and of effort then you create an environment where no one appreciates anything and everyone start to complain cos theuy can just warp to where ever thay want in an instant... so... to please the already spoiled valuless game we add instant free warpers... this removes the value of money in the game and immediately removes the sence of SIZE the world has.... I realize i am seemingly the only one that see it this way but... I have to be me... and theat is how i see it.Drep

DesuMacchi · Post by **DesuMacchi** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 5:00 pm

Ya I hear ya Drep. I agree with you somewhat. For me, on a low rate server, like NovaRO, They have the free warper to pick what lvl dungeon what town, etc, just like mine but they dont have a job changer. Meaning you have to do all the job quests and tests to become any job other than Novice. That is a fair trade I think. I wouldnt play anywhere that didnt have a warper. Also with drop rates LOW you make your money with Merchants selling cards, armor, etc. Something I am looking into doing now with my server. keeping the exp and job rates at 250 but making the drops 1. That way it gives the Merchants something to do.Im also setting up the 25/25/25 server as well. Which is a nice happy medium for people like me. Still takes you a day or 2 to get your 50 job levels but satisfies the people that cant stand rates too low...Like Ive always said Dreppy, Im game to play on your server. Im down with the leveling struggle!!

Evangelion · Post by **Evangelion** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 5:34 pm

I think you guys both make very valid points and I deeply respect both of your opinions. But I would like to say this...On DesuRO, i'm level 161, and I would like to say that once you hit about 160, the leveling starts to get VERY tough. So I think that it's going to be a fun challange to get as high as I can and maybe even get to level 255.

Drep'anon · Post by **Drep'anon** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 6:28 pm

One thing I know for a fact the Warper causes is... new players have absolutely no idea where things are. A big part of the game is learning your way around. Another thing is there are virtually some maps that never get played. I don't want this to seem to be a debate. my comments were not meant to cause a debate... I think I was curious if accross the board everyone disagreed with me on this general approach to running the server.There does seem to be an overall difference in the way I appraoach games for some reason. I'm sure there are others out there like myself. I just don't know where to find them.It may have alot to do with my Starfleet Command background. In SFC (witch was based on a 25 yr old board game) there was a very rich variety of elements. It was possible to design complex approaches to combat. Especially if you had a multiplayer senario with mixed class ships. A game could literally rest on 1 point in a shield or 1 weapon or one marine left.many people played that game once or twice then either cried and complained about it on the forums asking for a "patch" (we all know how that works) or the just said the game sucked.I look at it like this... what if you were given the best Indi race car there was. You got on the track for the 500. After about 3 mins you would have been owned by all the seasoned race car drivers. It doesnt mean that you could'nt in time woop em... but man at least take some time to learn the finner things of the race and the car and how to corner etc.... Or i guess you could just add a warper to the starting line and warp to the end first then taxi around the track

Drep'anon · Post by **Drep'anon** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 6:48 pm

Ya I hear ya Drep. I agree with you somewhat. For me, on a low rate server, like NovaRO, They have the free warper to Im also setting up the 25/25/25 server as well. Which is a nice happy medium for people like me. Still takes you a day or 2 to get your 50 job levels but satisfies the people that cant stand rates too low...:)Why don't we make my server the second server? Unless you have alot of bandwidth... I have 2 machines running this bear and I am looking into setting up 2 LINUX boxes with the mysql version. My big points are:1. Stability2. Challenge3. Special events4. Seasonal changesBy far All must submit to stability. Stable and reliable gameplay is not an option. It is the way I always ran sabermaster or any other game server I ever ran. Freelancer was a learning point in what not to do! I made changes daily and it soon became unstable.Just throwing it out there. Lets not act impulsivly but we could certainly kick ideas around.

Post by **Snape** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 8:50 pm

I think a merge of servers would be a great way forward, have a name that suits both servers (eg SnapeRO

) and then have Dessy and Dreppy servers within, one with all the high rates, extra features, advanced classes etc and the other with the right settings to make playing more of a challenge and thus more rewarding.If everything was pulled together we could easily make a subdomain on this site (RO.fouclan.com, SnapeRO.fouclan.com

etc.) or just as easily set up a new domain to support both. I'm sure if an online SQL server was setup to handle the user accounts then both servers could be accessed using a single account.Another thing that I could offer besides the web hosting and possible MySQL support is a proper installation package that would install all the necessary files and patches (excluding the main client and sakray) to have both servers running without manual intervention.Like D-man said, just kicking some ideas around but I would be more than happy to help in any way I can, as long as this would be a fairly longterm deal and not something that will be forgotten within a month.

Post by **Step** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 10:27 pm

now i get to say this:sounds like a plan to me!

Drep'anon · Post by **Drep'anon** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 3:37 am

you are correct about the account thing... we can have one account server.

DesuMacchi · Post by **DesuMacchi** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 4:33 am

Snape - DrepIm down if you guys are willing to colaborate on a server or 2 servers. I will be playing this game for quite some time Snapey, no worries about that. I love it. The interaction with all the people and just hanging out having a good time. Sitting in Pron chillin and bullshitting with everyone. Good times.I dont really have alot of time during the week to do alot of "extra" work on anything, but the weekends are another story. You guys both have my email address. Hit me up with some Ideas on anything. I would enjoy setting up a "happy medium" server if you guys wanna do that.OmniAthena is what I use and I have been messing with eAthena quite a bit.Omni seems to be alot more stable and less buggy. Plus Omni is compatible with anything that eAthena is and more.Like I said drop me a line and lets get somethign going. A 3 way with Myself, Drep and Snape - we should be able to make a decent RO server in no time.MrMiller@columbus.rr.com - Look forward to hearing from you 2.